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I sent the following email to a few of the Senators seeking a compromise:

I completely appreciate your efforts to find a compromise in the filibuster debate facing the Senate.  I would like to suggest a compromise.  In order to avoid a showdown on whether or not to change the filibuster rules, I suggest the group of 12 vote to end the filibuster and then vote against Priscilla Owens nomination to the federal court.  

In doing so, you would avoid having to vote on changing the rules and would send all Senators and President Bush a message that you will not allow one individual to tear apart the most deliberative body in the world.  Our system of government is the greatest this world has seen and the thought that small number of judicial nominations can tear it apart like we are seeing today is deeply saddening.  We should be above this!

And then maybe the Senate can get past this and focus on the more pressing issues facing this nation.

Originally posted to DC4KE on Mon May 23, 2005 at 02:13 PM PDT.

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  •  with all due respect (4.00)
    are you fucking out of your mind?

    I suggest the group of 12 vote to end the filibuster and then vote against Priscilla Owens nomination to the federal court.

    •  ignorant or a troll or an ignorant troll? (none)
      Either the poster doesn't understand what s/he's suggesting or s/he's a troll.

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      by Carl Nyberg on Mon May 23, 2005 at 02:19:15 PM PDT

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      •  I think you guys are a little too sensitive. (none)
        Unless I'm really misreading the OP, the suggestion is to end the current filibuster on the Owen nomination, not to end the existence of the filibuster in general.
        •  I think... (none)
          That's correct.  And if that's a way to resolve this while still resulting in both:

          A) The fillibuster remaining available for other judicial nominations, and
          B) Owen not going on the bench.

          I'd suppport it.  Hell, if the same deal could be struck on a broader level (killing Owen, Brown, and Pryor in up or down votes, for instance), I'd be even happier.

          •  Your correct... (none)
            First to the overly sensitive individuals who responded, Grow up!

            Now with that said, you are correct, the purpose of the email was to vote to end debate on Owens and second send a message to the rest of the Senate that the Senate is above party, above interest groups, and above any one president by voting her nomination down.  The email was directed to the senators who are seeking a compromise.  Not to just the democrats or just the republicans, but to the ones who hold respect for the institution as a whole.

            The problem with most democrats and most republicans is they can't look past themselves or their party.  We've spent how much time now on this issue?  And how much has been devoted to the issues that the majority of us truly care about.  If this vote goes ahead and passes, and the senate is virtually shut down, what good does that serve.  What I'm asking is for those senators to send a message that the senate is larger than party, larger than one judicial nominee, larger than any interest group.

  •  I think it would be more clear (none)
    If you said 'group of 12 vote in favor of the cloture motion' instead of 'group of 12 vote to end the filibuster'. I had to go back and read it again to get your point. My question, though, is what has been gained for the Republican side? The filibuster is still around, and the Owen nomination has been shot down. But then we may just go through the whole thing all over again on the next judicial appointment.
  •  -And with that, Owens is in on a party line vote,, (none)
    the GOP and American Taliban claims a complete victory, the filibuster exists as long as nobody ever uses it, and to boot Harry Reid is routed in the media as a complete disaster as Senate leader.

    No thank you.

    The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, but the myth. - John F. Kennedy

    by LeftHandedMan on Mon May 23, 2005 at 02:19:12 PM PDT

    •  I say Owens gets in..... (none)
      because just enough of the GOP welches on the agreement after Owens is actually allowed on the floor and is then on the bench... and we go through this whole mess all over again with the next round of Bush's rejected judges.

      What is in it for the GOP to stick to this? Suicide in '06? Owens is one of the American Taliban's favorite wingnut judges.

      The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, but the myth. - John F. Kennedy

      by LeftHandedMan on Mon May 23, 2005 at 02:23:34 PM PDT

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  •  Boy... (none)
    Maybe I can think of ideas that might be a little more stupid, but I'd need better drugs.
  •  I will be FURIOUS (none)
    with any compromise.

    what - exactly would Dems "win" in a "compromise?"

    the ability to filibuster?  To use the rules?   Um - we have that.

    If we DON'T already have that - then there is no compromise to be made anyway.

    If we are a dictatorship - let's end the charade.  I'd rather lose than compromise.

    If we're a republic - then let's act like one.

    Asking the bully to please not hit us on Tuesdays and Thursdays if we give our lunch money to him on M, W. F, is not a compromise - it's defeat.

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    by its simple IF you ignore the complexity on Mon May 23, 2005 at 02:53:35 PM PDT

  •  No Shit! (none)
    Compromise is used to gain something, not to keep something you already have.

    There can be no compromise from a position of subservience!  Only when you beat your master in the face enough times to make him/her realize you are equal can there be compromise.

    At this point the GOP, the media, and the majority of the American people view the Dem Leadership as subservient.  A feeble compromise from this position will only reinforce that point of view.

    I am so far to the left I can almost see the right again.

    by beagleandtabby on Mon May 23, 2005 at 03:08:01 PM PDT

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